Carmageddon - PC Cheats and Codes Supposedly these codes don't work with the shareware version (I haven't tested it). Nor have I had the opportunity to test the Network codes. Note that messing around with the edit modes runs the high risk of crashing the game. Any info I have on the non-cheat edit modes is just what I've been able to figure out by trial and error. Also, I haven't tested the non-cheat modes thoroughly with the Splat Pack. If you have any problems after messing around with edit modes (such as slow-down), deleting your DATA\OPTIONS.TXT file may take care that. The versions of Carmageddon I tested with were the original 1997/98 full- version releases of Carmageddon and the Splat Pack. There may have been changes in the program since then (like maybe a fix so that the unused crap files leftover from development don't get installed?). Interplay does wacky things when they re-release games, and my 2001 German version of Carmageddon, published by Green Pepper, has more differences than just translation and censorship. (Germany concerned with censorship? Ha!) For graphical and code editing, I recommend Carmagedit by Scofflaw Software. Since their site seems to no longer exists, I've posted Carmagedit for download at my website. Type these codes during a race. Depending on what mood your computer is in, you must type them either VERY QUICKLY, or else VERY SLOWLY (to let the keys do their different functions--such as CD startup). Don't push any other keys for a second before and after typing codes. Codes denoted by "(?!)" don't want to work for me. 5 Free Recovery Vouchers . . . . ICECREAMHOLE Acme Damage Magnifier. . . . . . WEHATEMARIO Blind Pedestrians. . . . . . . . HAMSTERSEX Bodywork Trashed . . . . . . . . BIGBOTTOM Bouncy-Bouncy. . . . . . . . . . CHICKENFODDER Drugs. . . . . . . . . . . . . . INTHELOFT Explosive Pedestrians. . . . . . SUPERHOOPS Free Repairs . . . . . . . . . . SPAMFRITTERS Frozen Cops. . . . . . . . . . . NASALSMEAR Frozen Opponents . . . . . . . . SPAMACCIDENTS Giant Pedestrians. . . . . . . . SMALLUDDERS Gravity From Jupiter . . . . . . RABBITDREAMER Greased Tires. . . . . . . . . . BENFORMARIO Grip-o-matic Tires . . . . . . . BOYSFROMTHEBUSH Hot Rod. . . . . . . . . . . . . IGLOOFUN Increment Lap Counter. . . . . . MRCURSORSCOOL Instant Handbrake. . . . . . . . SPAMFORREST Instant Repair . . . . . . . . . INTHEWAR Invulnerability (?!) . . . . . . SPOONREASON Jelly Suspension . . . . . . . . BUYOURNEXTGAME Lunar Gravity. . . . . . . . . . IHAVESOMESPAM Mega Credits Bonus . . . . . . . GIVEMELARD Mine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BILLANDBEN Pedestrian Electro-bastard Ray . RUSSFORMARIO Pedestrian Harvest . . . . . . . TRAMSARESUPER Pedestrian Respawn . . . . . . . NAUGHTYTORTY Pedestrians Glued to Ground. . . SPAMSPAMSPAMSPAM Pedestrians Shown on Map . . . . ILOVENOBBY Pinball Mode . . . . . . . . . . MOOSEONTHELOOSE Solid Granite Car (?!) . . . . . KEEPITHAPPINESS Time Bonus . . . . . . . . . . . MILKYSMILES Timer Frozen / Timer Thaw. . . . SEXWITHFISH Turbo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . SOAPYTITWANKS Turbo Cops . . . . . . . . . . . YAKATTAK Turbo Opponents. . . . . . . . . YUMMYLARD Turbo Pedestrians. . . . . . . . FUNNYJAM Underwater Ability . . . . . . . GOOGLEPLEX Vesuvian Corpses . . . . . . . . ISLANDRULES Wall Climber . . . . . . . . . . SECRETCOWS Edit Mode (keys below) . . . . . IBETYOUCANTPRINTCUNT Menu Codes: To access all cars and tracks in a single-player game, type KEVWOZEAR or else ENABLE (older versions only) at the Single-Player Menu (where you choose Race, Info, Parts, Cars, Start Race). You'll hear the Rank Increase sound. If ENABLE works with your version, it also enables the Edit Modes (F4 during a race). To decrypt/encrypt all .TXT files in the DATA directory and its sub- directories, type IWANTTOFIDDLE at the Single-Player Menu. You'll hear a skid before decryption/ecyption begins, then another skid when it's finished. To access all cars in network mode, type JOYRIDER at the "Choose Game Type" Menu. You'll hear the Rank Increase sound. Select "ALL" cars in the options menu. Miscellaneous: Press the WHEELSPIN key during the startup-countdown to start early. Press SHIFT-D for screen captures: DUMPxxxx.BMP is created in the DATA directory. Carmageddon can handle up to 9999 (+1) screenshots in the directory, but it tends to crash (on my P200) up around 200 because every time you press SHIFT-D, Carmageddon scans the directory for the lowest filename available. Hold SHIFT during playback to hide the controls. Press I (letter i) to display coordinates. This only works after you've beaten the game. Example Coordinates: 13.4 (-29.169, -3.342, 32.464) 6, 180, MILES=0.02 13.4 = Framerate -29.169 = X-Coordinate (North/South) -3.342 = Y-Coordinate (Vertical) 32.464 = Z-Coordinate (East/West) 6 = Vertical angle of external perspective [6 to 57 degrees] 180 = Circular angle of external perspective (360 degress) MILES = Distance driven. Useful for measuring lap distance. Can be negative if you drive backwards. _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: CHEAT *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes F5 Instant Repair F6 Invulnerability Toggle F7 +30 Seconds F8 Freeze/Thaw Timer F10 Increment Lap counter F11 +5000 Credits F12 Cycle through external views of all cars SHIFT-F6 Show opponents on map (network cheat?) SHIFT-F7 +300 Seconds (5 Minutes) SHIFT-F8 Shadows Toggle SHIFT-F10 Increment Checkpoint counter SHIFT-F11 Lose 5000 Credits CTRL-F8 Shadow Translucence Toggle CTRL-KEYPAD1 Fly Mode Toggle: Use normal movement keys. KEYPAD5 places you on the ground (still flying). KEYPAD9 and KEYPAD6 change the car's pitch. (I can't get fly mode to work! Please e-mail me if you know why.) 0 Credits Bonus 1 Mega Credits Bonus 2 Pedestrians glued to Ground 3 Giant Pedestrians 4 Explosive Pedestrians 5 Hot Rod 6 Turbo Pedestrians 7 Invulnerability 8 Free Repairs 9 Instant Repair SHIFT-0 Timer Frozen / Timer Thaw SHIFT-1 Underwater Ability SHIFT-2 Time Bonus SHIFT-3 Bodywork Trashed SHIFT-4 Mine SHIFT-5 Frozen Opponents SHIFT-6 Frozen Cops SHIFT-7 Turbo Opponents SHIFT-8 Turbo Cops SHIFT-9 Lunar Gravity ALT-0 Pinball Mode ALT-1 Wall Climber ALT-2 Bouncy-Bouncy ALT-3 Jelly Suspension ALT-4 Pedestrians shown on Map ALT-5 Pedestrian Electro-bastard Ray ALT-6 Greased Tires ALT-7 Acme Damage Magnifier ALT-8 Random Power-up #1 ALT-9 Random Power-up #2 SHIFT-ALT-0 Random Power-up #3 SHIFT-ALT-1 Random Power-up #4 SHIFT-ALT-2 Instant Handbrake SHIFT-ALT-3 Pedestrians from Hades SHIFT-ALT-4 Turbo SHIFT-ALT-5 Mega Turbo SHIFT-ALT-6 Blind Pedestrians SHIFT-ALT-7 Pedestrian Respawn SHIFT-ALT-8 5 Free Recovery Vouchers SHIFT-ALT-9 Solid Granite Car CTRL-0 Rock Springs CTRL-1 Drugs CTRL-2 Grop-o-matic Tires CTRL-3 Pedestrian Harvest CTRL-4 Vesuvian Corpses CTRL-5 Gravity from Jupiter Splat Pack only:____________________ CTRL-6 Mine CTRL-7 Mollusk Pedestrians CTRL-8 Miniature Pedestrians CTRL-9 Turbo Nutter Bastard Nitrous SHIFT-CTRL-0 20,000-Credit Bollocks Bonus *"Phoney powerup to make Satan react to getting a car in the cock." (never implemented in the game) _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: ACCESSORIES *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes F5 Rotate mode: X/Y/Z SHIFT-F5 Scale Mode: X/Y/Z/ALL F6 Lock onto nearest accessory F7 Rotate by 90 degrees F8 Delete accessory F10 Move X-wise (North/South) F11 Move Y-wise (Vertically) F12 Move Z-wise (West/East) CTRL-F6 Expand / Compress CTRL-F7 Rotate by 15 degrees ALT-F7 Rotate by 5 degrees CTRL-ALT-F7 Rotate by 1 degrees ALT-F6 / -F7 / -F10 Compress/move/rotate by smaller increments / -F11 / -F12 CTRL-ALT-F6 / -F7 / -F10 Compress/move/rotate by 1 / -F11 / -F12 SHIFT Combine to reverse rotataion/movement/compression 0 thru 9 Spawn an accessory. Can also be combined with SHIFT, ALT, CTRL Explanation of Accessory Edit Mode: Each race file has a specifically defined list of accessories (under "Non CarObjects"), but edit mode doesn't necessarily yield the desired accessory; that's what manual script editing is for! The files in DATA\NONCARS define each accessory's properties (and accessory number). DATA\ACCESSRY.TXT defines the accessory keys: # = X, ALT-# = 10 + X, CTRL-# = 20 + X, SHIFT-# = 30 + X. The commented Splat Pack version of this file illustrates this nicely. Hm, the generated file is not the usual Carmageddon encryption, so I don't know what to do with it. Maybe just point the game to it and let it fly? Anyways, the file is dumped to the DATA\ACTORS directory as an ACT file. It looks like whatever file is defined in the race file under "Additional actor" is modified. Yes, I know it looks like the X-Y-Z-axi are mislabeled, but that's SCi's doing. (I always thought there was something amiss about European logic...) _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: SPECIAL (EFFECTS) VOLUMES *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes F5 Rotate mode X/Y/Z SHIFT-F5 Scale mode X/Y/Z/ALL F6 Lock onto nearest Volume F8 Delete selected Special Volume 1 Spawn underwater effect 2 Spawn cavern effect 3 ??? Default effects? Explation of Special Volume Edit Mode: Special volume types are cubic regions were sound playback and car physics are altered. They are predefined in DATA\SPECVOL.TXT, and in-game editing creates DATA\SPECSAVE.TXT. Rotation /scale controls are the same as in Accessory Edit Mode. Volumes appear as red and yellow enclosures. _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: PEDESTRIANS *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes F5 Pedestrian Invulnerability Toggle F6 Show Pedestrian Paths, Toggle F10 Drop Pedestrian Path Point (red lines) F11 Dop Initial Pedestrian Path Point F12 Scrub Pedestrian (cancel new selection) SHIFT-F6 Identify nearest point SHIFT-F10 Drag nearest Ped point to current position DO NOT use while line-drawing! (crashes) CTRL-F10 Drop Auto-Y point (light blue lines) CTRL-F11 Drop Initial Auto-Y point 0 thru 9 # = index of pedestrian to spawn ALT-# # + 10 = index of pedestrian to spawn CTRL-# # + 20 = index of pedestrian to spawn SHIFT-# # + 100 = index of powerup to spawn Explanation of Pedestrian Edit Mode: First of all, show the pedestrian paths (F5) to discourage the game from crashing while editing pedestrians. To add pedestrians to the map, first select a pedestrian index number. (You'll notice the total pedestrian count go up.) Drive around and drop some points to define the pedestrian's movement path. When you're done, select a new pedestrian number. (Power-ups are also pedestrians, but since they don't move, they require only one point.) The diffrence between Auto-Y and regular points: A pedestrian must travel the direct path between regular points, even if it means defying gravity or walking through walls. Auto-Y points allow a pedestrian to deviate vertically from its path, so that it can walk properly over hills and dips, or plummet to its death. Only paths immeadiately between Auto-Y points function as Auto-Y paths. If you find yourself needing to change a normal point into an Auto-Y point, add 1000.4 to the Y-coordinate (or subtract 1000.4 if you want a normal point). CTRL, SHIFT, and ALT can be combined when selecting a pedestrian index (just do the math). See DATA\PEDESTRN.TXT for the pedestrian reference numbers. When you're done, quit the game and look in the DATA directory for PEDPATHS.TXT. This file will contain all the pedestrian information from the level you were just editing. (You might also find PEDINFO.TXT, but I'm not quite sure what creates it or what it's for; it's always been an empty file.) This information can be pasted directly into a (decrypted) race file (look in the DATA\RACES directory); search for "START OF PEDESTRIAN STUFF" to find the pedestrian section. Be sure to update the "Number of pedestrians". When editing pedestrians, I recommend you freeze the timer, neutralize opponents (Opponent Mode: SHIFT-8), and make the pedestrians invulnerable. If the peds get in your way, turn on "Light and Fluffy Mode" (KEYPAD_MINUS). _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: OPPONENTS *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes F5 Show paths F6 Toggle direction of nearest paths F7 New path section F8 Attatch section to node (after F7) F10 Get info of nearest path F12 Cycle through cars' external views SHIFT-F5 Get info SHIFT-F6 Toggle section use: * Green = General * Red = Race * Blue = Cheat only SHIFT-F7 Path Drawing SHIFT-F8 Drag point to current position SHIFT-F10 Info SHIFT-F11 Delete section CTRL-F6 Info CTRL-F7 1-/2-way Toggle CTRL-F10 Increase min speed by 11 ALT-F7 Drag points ALT-F10 Display min-max speed 0 Cycle through cars' external views 1 Opponents on/off 2 Identify nearest cop start point 3 Opponent aggression toggle 8 Downforce speed +50 (range: 50-2000) SHIFT-8 Opponent Neutrality toggle SHIFT-9 Car Collisions toggle CTRL-2 Delete nearest cop start point CTRL-9 Mechanics (car movement) toggle Explanation of Opponent Edit Mode: When you're done editing the opponents' race paths, you'll find OPATH000.TXT in the DATA directory. Paste the new path info into a race text file under "START OF OPPONENT PATHS". _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: BONNET *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes 1 Move bonnet Forward (X-wise) 2 Move bonnet Left (Y-wise) 3 Move bonnet Down (Z-wise) 4 Pitch bonnet Forward (X-wise) 5 Rotate bonnet Clockwise (Y-wise) 6 Pitch bonnet Right (Z-wise) 7 Compress bonnet Sideways (left-to-right, X-wise) 8 Compress bonnet Vertically (top-to-bottom, Y-wise) 9 Compress bonnet Depthwise (front-to-back, Z-wise) SHIFT Combine with 1 thru 9 for reverse actions F12 Save changes to bonnet as an .ACT file in the DATA directory. Explanation of Bonnet Edit Mode: For those like me, who are mechanically illiterate, the bonnet is the polygon you see in front of your car from the internal perspective. This mode edits the size and positioning of this object. (C is the default key to switch to the internal perspective.) After you're through editing your bonnet, press F12 to save your work, and you'll find an .ACT file in the DATA directory with the same name as the .ACT file your car used (as defined in the car's .TXT file). To use your new bonnet, move it to the DATA\ACTORS directory (thus copying it over the original .ACT file). Note that some bonnets are used by more than one car, for example, most of the cheat cars use EBONNET.ACT, which belongs to the red Eagle. If you want to rename your bonnet, you'll need to use a hex-editor, such as UltraEdit, to change the internal name. (Regular ASCII text editors will corrupt your bonnet file.) Files for the bonnet are defined under "Number of pixelmap/material/model files for this car" in the car's .TXT file. There should be three sets of .PIX and .MAT declarations, each, then a set of .DAT declarations and a set of .ACT declarations. Each set contains a file relevent to the bonnet. (This information is useful if you want to swap a car's bonnet.) Special thanks to QTZ for pointing out what EDIT MODE: BONNET does, and what to do with the file generated by F12. _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: OPTIONS *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes 1 Car simplification level (0-4) 2 Shadows 3 Wall Textures: None, Linear, Best 4 Sky Texture on/off 5 Track drawing distance (4 modes) 6 Yon decrease by 5 7 Sound detail (3 modes) SHIFT-1 Car Texture detail (3 modes) SHIFT-2 Smoke toggle SHIFT-3 Road textures on/off SHIFT-4 Depth cueing toggle (visibility) SHIFT-5 Accessories on/off SHIFT-6 Yon increase by 5 Explanation of Option Edit Mode: This is mostly stuff that can be done from the details menu. Menu options that cannot be altered during a race also cannot be altered in edit mode. _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: PRAT-CAM *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes 0 thru 9 Test prat-cam animations 0-9 SHIFT-0 thru -9 Test prat-cam animations 10-19 ALT-0 thru -9 Test prat-cam animations 20-29 SHIFT-ALT-0 thru -9 Test prat-cam animations 30-39 CTRL-0 thru -4 Test prat-cam animations 40-44 CTRL-5 thru -9 Undefined; game crashes _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: DEPTH EFFECTS *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes F5 Environmental effect toggle: Darkness, Fog, None F6 Sky texture toggle (off/on) F7 Reduce depth start (minimum = 3) F8 Increase depth start (maximum = 13 F10 Increase YON by 5 (drawing distance) F11 Increase camera angle SHIFT-F7 Reduce end depth ('minimum' = 13) SHIFT-F8 Increase end depth ('maximum' = 0) SHIFT-F10 Reduce YON by 5 (minimum = 5) SHIFT-F11 Decrease camera angle 0 Shadows toggle 1 Shadow transluscence toggle 9 Rotate dust color Explanation of Depth Effect Edit Mode: If you're dissatisfied with the limited drawing distance (can't see as far as you'd like), you can kick it up seemingly as high as you want--the default is 35, and I got up to 2175 (while facing an outer edge of the map) before I got tired of pressing F10 and quit. It seems that the only limitation is how powerful your computer is. If you increase the camera angle too much, it's like driving with wall- eye vision. Weird! _____________________________________________________________________________ *** EDIT MODE: DAMAGE *** F4 / SHIFT-F4 Cycle through edit modes 0 Engine 1 Drive shaft 2 Steering 3 Front Left Wheel 4 Back Left Wheel 5 Front Right Wheel 6 Back Right Wheel SHIFT-0 Engine SHIFT-1 Drive shaft SHIFT-2 Steering SHIFT-3 Front Left Break SHIFT-4 Back Left Break SHIFT-5 Front Right Break SHIFT-6 Back Right Break Explanation of Damage Edit Mode: It only takes 4 presses of a command to start a part on fire. I imagine the duplicate functions might be for specialized cars. _____________________________________________________________________________ Commandline Parameters *** Carmageddon *** MAINPROG.EXE The game executible CARMAGDN.EXE Another version of Carmageddon -RUNME Run the game (MAINPROG.EXE only) -HELP List parameters -HIRES 640x480 resolution -NOCUTSCENE No movies, no music -LOMEM Run with low memory -SPAMFRITTER ??? More spam when frittering ??? -GERMAN "Non-violent" version: robot pedestrians (CARMAGDN.EXE only) *** Splat Pack *** CARMA.EXE The game executible CARMAV.EXE 3dfx version of game -HELP List parameters -HIRES 640x480 resolution -NOCUTSCENE No movies, no music -LOMEM Run with low memory -YON [yonFactor] yonFactor is a number between 0 and 1 -SIMPLE [CarSimplificationLevel] CarSimpllificationLevel is an integer between 0 and 4 -SOUND [SoundDetailLevel] SoundDetailLevel is an integer -ROBOTS Boring Mode (robot pedestrians) -NOSOUND No sound -NOREPLAY Disable replay -SPAMFRITTER ??? More spam when frittering ??? The Splat Pack parameters also work with CARMAG.EXE, the German version of Carmageddon. Except for -NOREPLAY and -ROBOTS, they also work with CARMAGDN.EXE. _____________________________________________________________________________ If you're still reading, here's a bonus: How to disable Carmageddon's CD depedency. Why? Because you get sick of listening to the same (hard) music. (Gotta love the Carmageddon Theme song, however. ;) ) First of all, you'll need to run a FULL installation of Carmageddon. Now the only files accessed on the CD are the cutscenes. You'll need to copy these to your harddrive. They're located on the CD under DATA\CUTSCENE, and conveniently enough, the destination directory of the same name should already exist on your harddrive. You can get away with copying just MIX_INTR.SMK, or copy them all if you don't mind the extra 32 MB. The last thing to do, is to correct DATA\PATHS.TXT. When you first install the game, this file will be a hidden, read-only, system file, and not yet encrypted. (If you're working at the commandline, type "ATTRIB -S -H -R PATHS.TXT" to make it appear.) PATHS.TXT Line What? Example 1 CD-ROM drive H: 2 Game path E:\Games\Carma 3 Installation Type FULL 4 Language English You'll need to make Line 1 the same as Line 2 to trick the game into thinking your harddrive is also the CD-ROM. If it's already encrypted, that's okay--just copy line 2, cut line 1, and paste! Now you're free to listen to whatever music you want! (I recommend Joe Satriani: Surfing with the Alien.) Note however, your CD needs to have at least 8 tracks, or else the CD player will stop if it tries to play a track that's not there. (Or you can edit DATA\SOUND\SOUND.TXT to select other tracks. By default, the game calls tracks 2 thru 8. Search for "CDA".) Also, Enhanced CDs will not work with Carmageddon. :( The Splat Pack needed a CD change even more; it has the same number of tracks as the original Carmageddon, but only three are actual music. (Four 10-second tracks of silence is NOT what I call part of an enjoyable soundtrack.) Plus, track 1, the data track, is defined in the play list, so the music always quits sooner or later. Boring! (The CD tracks, 1 thru 8, are defined as sounds 9600 thru 9607.) SplatPack's PATHS.TXT Line What? Example 1 CD-ROM drive H: 2 SplatPack path E:\Games\CarmaSP 3 Installation Type FULL 4 Language English 5 Carma Path E:\Games\Carma Here's an update on the Splat Pack (29.Aug.2002). Contrary to what I thought, the Splat Pack can be, er, broken of its CD depencency. It's just a little trickier. Appearently, the Splat Pack (CARMA.EXE) checks to make sure the CD-ROM drive and game path are not identical, which Carmageddon (MAINPROG.EXE) does not. So you'll need to create a third directory and call it what you like, for example "E:\Games\CarmaCD". Your third directory will need the following structure and files: CARMA.EXE DATA\GENERAL.TXT DATA\CUTSCENE\SPLINTRO.SMK I speculate that CARMAV.EXE may also be necessary if you're running the 3Dfx version. I accidently figured this out when I was just messing around, trying to combine Carmageddon's cars/tracks with the Splat Pack. I had three versions of Carmageddon on my harddrive: Carmageddon, the Splat Pack, and Carmageddon combined with the Splat Pack. I must have messed with PATHS.TXT and forgetten to fix it like it's supposed to be. One day I started up the combined Splat Pack and loaded a race, then realized I was listening to the wrong CD! Inspection of PATHS.TXT revealed that I'd defined my normal Splat Pack as the CD-ROM path. Then it was only a matter of selective elemination to figure out which files are needed (so that I could clear off my packed harddrive!). In any case, you'll know it worked if you get past the game's first menu without being asked to insert a disk. _____________________________________________________________________________ Special Notes for Germans I had fun writing this section for the German version, so I thought I'd include it in the English version for the non-German speakers, too. (The first section is summerized, however.) *** Robot-Pedestrian Fix *** Blah blah blah . . . copy PEDESTRN.TXT over BORING.TXT to have pedestrians instead of robots, SOUND.TXT over KSOUND.TXT for pedestrian sounds, and GIBSMEAR.MAT over ROBSMEAR.MAT for red jib smears. I'm still not sure how to replace the robotic explosions. *** What is Spamfritter? *** No idea. Probably an inside joke at SCi. I do know what spam is though. [I didn't see any spam while in Germany.] It's a meat by-product, somewhat like liverwurst ["sausage" that spreads!]. It comes in a tin can, and requires a "key" to be opened. ("Weird Al" Yankovic sings a funny song about it.) How spam and liverwurst compare in taste, I can't remember (I haven't eaten spam in years), but probably indeed different. I liked [German] liverwurst on buttered bread. (Frau Fratta always made it good! (Ha ha, Chip and I drove her cat crazy with the laserpen!)) Try liverwurst on margerita[/plain] pizza from PLUS [Prima Leben Und Sparen: Prime Living And Saving - a German supermarket chain]. It tastes weird. (Hey, a poor guy has to eat cheap when in a foreign country, and that reduces the variety, especially when he doesn't know too many recipies...) _____________________________________________________________________________ Legal stuff: * Carmageddon / Splat Pack (c)1997 SCi * Special Thanks to QTZ for help with EDIT MODE: BONNET * This page (c)2002-2004 Wally Waffles URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Fortress/1896/ email: WallyWaffles@yahoo.com Last Updated 2004.09.20